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2021 February 11
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это не я, это нейронка моя
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студенты подогнали хорошие стикеры
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@c08ea0b3ec541615769a8fd272fe13 ты уже чипировался от ковида?
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тл; др
* Scala has tons of language features and lets people do crazy things in the code. Hard to win technical arguments with Scala geniuses that like using complicated language features.
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dominotw 2 hours ago [–]
> Hard to win technical arguments with Scala geniuses that like using complicated language features.
I was on a team building good old crud apps using monads, monoids, categories, combinators, effects cats, seamless and bunch of other nonsense that i've now purged from my brain.
You could've easily mistaken our team for a programming language research group at a university.
This is literally the number one reason i would never choose scala. There is no upper bound to amount of stupidity one can indulge in. Our code was so convoluted that even intellij had trouble understanding what the hell was going on and would spit out compilation errors when there were none.
I now work with clojure team and i feel a sense of relief and weight taken off of my head from all the useless stuff i had to learn and use.
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dominotw 2 hours ago [–]
> Hard to win technical arguments with Scala geniuses that like using complicated language features.
I was on a team building good old crud apps using monads, monoids, categories, combinators, effects cats, seamless and bunch of other nonsense that i've now purged from my brain.
You could've easily mistaken our team for a programming language research group at a university.
This is literally the number one reason i would never choose scala. There is no upper bound to amount of stupidity one can indulge in. Our code was so convoluted that even intellij had trouble understanding what the hell was going on and would spit out compilation errors when there were none.
I now work with clojure team and i feel a sense of relief and weight taken off of my head from all the useless stuff i had to learn and use.
Лучше xml, можно теги на кириллице написать и сразу будет читаемо
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там вся ветка угар
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@c08ea0b3ec541615769a8fd272fe13 ты уже чипировался от ковида?
нет
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Here's the thing, if you look at a basic Spring crud app, you are also using Monads, Monoids, Categories, Traverse, etc. but you aren't expressing it in the type system. Seriously go look at modern Spring's flux stuff, it's all there minus the type classes.
I've seen teams that tried to over engineer Spring, teams that tried to over engineer Node applications, and yes there are teams that over engineer Functional style Scala.
All the teams I worked with (and managed) at Verizon leaned pretty heavily into FP style Scala without much over engineering and the experience was extremely pleasant. The only production issues in my three years there I remember were performance related, finding out how to get more throughput or lower latency out of FP Scala. I literally can't remember any 'bugs' that made it to production.
I've seen teams that tried to over engineer Spring, teams that tried to over engineer Node applications, and yes there are teams that over engineer Functional style Scala.
All the teams I worked with (and managed) at Verizon leaned pretty heavily into FP style Scala without much over engineering and the experience was extremely pleasant. The only production issues in my three years there I remember were performance related, finding out how to get more throughput or lower latency out of FP Scala. I literally can't remember any 'bugs' that made it to production.
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там вся ветка угар
с таким заголовком там всё должно быть во вкусе апача
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можно сраться неимоверно долго
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нет
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